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奥尔巴尼国际 (AIN) 2026年第三季度业绩电话会议:创纪录营收与复合材料增长

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核心要点

  • 奥尔巴尼国际(Albany International)公布创纪录的季度营收为3.495亿美元,同比增长34%,这主要得益于工程复合材料项目的推进,以及重签CH-53K合同带来的约1200万美元收益。
  • 调整后EBITDA为1.001亿美元,占销售额的28.6%,其中包括约4400万美元的CH-53K预亏冲回。调整后摊薄每股收益(EPS)为1.68美元。
  • 工程复合材料业务营收创下1.797亿美元的纪录。扣除CH-53K调整及其他特殊项目后,管理层估计该板块的基础调整后EBITDA利润率约为12.5%。
  • 造纸网毯业务实现营收1.698亿美元,调整后EBITDA为4630万美元,利润率约为27%。欧洲和中国市场的稳定需求被美洲市场的疲软所抵消。
  • 对于2026财年第四季度,管理层维持合并营收指引在3.25亿美元至3.35亿美元之间,调整后摊薄EPS指引在0.65美元至0.75美元之间。
  • 管理层预计导弹和超音速业务增长机会将于2027年开始带来贡献,随着项目推进和产能扩张,2028年将产生更显著的影响。

主要财务业绩

指标 2026财年第三季度 对比与背景
合并营收 3.495亿美元 同比增长34%;创单季历史新高
调整后EBITDA 1.001亿美元 利润率为28.6%;包含约4400万美元的CH-53K收益
调整后摊薄EPS 1.68美元 高于公司此前修正后展望区间的上限
毛利润 1.404亿美元 毛利率为40.2%;包含3340万美元的CH-53K收益
营业利润 5940万美元 营业利润率为17%
自由现金流 3650万美元 高于上年同期的2570万美元
资本支出 1220万美元 低于上年同期的1830万美元
现金 7910万美元 期末余额
总负债 4.221亿美元 净负债约为3.43亿美元

业务与经营表现

工程复合材料业务

工程复合材料业务营收创下1.797亿美元的单季历史新高。增长广泛覆盖LEAP、波音787和单体机身框架平台、CH-53K、导弹项目及发动机应用领域。此外,为某主要国防承包商下一代合同提前确认的工装收入也对营收做出了贡献。

报告的调整后EBITDA为6560万美元,占销售额的36.5%,而上年同期为亏损1.346亿美元。2026财年第三季度业绩包含了重签CH-53K合同带来的约4400万美元收益。在扣除已识别的调整项和特殊项目后,管理层估计基础利润率约为12.5%。

修订后的CH-53K协议为营收贡献了约1200万美元,并改善了该项目的长期经济效益。管理层表示,该结算减少了围绕该项目的不确定性,并为盐湖城制造基地的运营提供了更稳定的基础。

奥尔巴尼还获得了2120万美元的工业基础分析与保持(IBAS)项目资助,用于扩充其陶瓷基复合材料产能。该资金将用于增加内部加工、质量检验和致密化产能。公司预计,在需要额外产能时,将把有限的内部投资与客户或政府资助相结合。

造纸网毯业务

造纸网毯业务营收为1.698亿美元,略低于上年同期;调整后EBITDA为4630万美元,利润率约为27%。

欧洲市场保持稳定,中国市场实现连续第四个季度的平稳运行,但管理层指出能见度仍旧有限。北美市场订单率有所改善,但客户兼并重组和产能合理化调整继续对出货量构成压力。南美市场需求持续疲软。

生活用纸和包装纸需求表现良好,在亚洲尤为突出。但出版用纸的长期结构性衰退以及南美需求的疲软部分抵消了这些利好因素。

管理层预计将在年底前弥补延期的造纸网毯出货量。现有设备保持运转,替代设备正在组装中,预计将于2026年底前投入使用。

管理层业绩指引

对于2026财年第四季度,奥尔巴尼国际维持以下业绩展望:

  • 合并营收预计为3.25亿美元至3.35亿美元。
  • 调整后摊薄EPS预计为0.65美元至0.75美元。
  • 有效税率约为29.5%。

由于各地区需求参差不齐、客户兼并重组以及造纸行业产能合理化调整,管理层继续预计造纸网毯业务全年营收将略低于2025财年。

随着商用航空与国防项目的推进,工程复合材料业务预计将保持同比增长。管理层将12.5%的基础调整后EBITDA利润率视为2026财年第四季度和2027财年早期的合理基准,此后将逐步改善。公司的目标是在2027年底使该板块利润率达到15%左右的水平。

管理层预计,随着CH-53K合同修改生效以及新合同的加入,利润率将在2027年下半年迎来进一步扩张。

风险与关注要点

  • 造纸网毯需求在各地区表现参差,中国市场能见度有限,南美市场持续疲软。
  • 造纸商客户的兼并重组与产能合理化调整缩减了美洲部分地区的出货量。
  • 出版用纸继续面临长期结构性衰退。
  • 工程复合材料业务的增长取决于主要航空、国防及导弹项目的持续产能爬坡。
  • 导弹资格认证和生产进度仍存在不确定性。管理层表示典型的产能爬坡可能需要12至36个月,但现有项目的进展可能会更快。
  • 报告的第三季度盈利能力包含了重大的CH-53K相关收益及其他特殊项目,因此工程复合材料业务的基础利润率成为需要监测的关键指标。

分析师问答环节亮点

管理层表示,在剔除CH-53K影响及其他已识别项目后,第三季度工程复合材料业务的基础调整后EBITDA利润率约为12.5%。在定价改善、产量提升以及亏损合同重签或退出的支持下,公司认为这一水平是2026财年第四季度和2027财年早期的合理起点。

在导弹项目方面,管理层指出JASSM和LRASM是现有的增长来源。其他潜在机会的开发活动预计将于2027年开始对业绩产生影响,并在2028年带来更清晰的量产贡献。

管理层预计第四季度现金流将保持强劲,且可能接近第三季度水平,同时指出重签CH-53K合同带来的现金效益应在2026财年第四季度及整个2027财年更加明显。

资本配置将保持纪律性。随着主要历史遗留问题得到解决,公司计划优先推动工程复合材料业务的内生性增长,维持股息派发,并更认真地评估潜在的并购机会。

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管理层陈述

Operator

Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to the Albany International Third Quarter 2026 Earnings. [Operator Instructions]

I will now hand the conference call over to Karen Blomquist, Director of Investor Relations. Karen, please go ahead.

Karen Blomquist

Welcome to Albany International's Third Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call.

As a reminder, for those listening on the call, please refer to our press release issued last night, detailing our quarterly financial results. Contained in the text of the release is a notice regarding our forward-looking statements and the use of certain non-GAAP financial measures and their reconciliation to GAAP. For the purposes of this conference call, those same statements apply to our verbal remarks this morning. Additionally, our remarks today may reference our earnings presentation, which is available on the Investor Relations section of our website, albint.com.

Today, we will make statements that are forward-looking and contain a number of risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied. For a full discussion of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to both our earnings release of October 28, 2026, as well as our SEC filings, including our 10-Q and our 10-K.

Now I will turn the call over to Gunnar Kleveland, our President and CEO, who will provide opening remarks. Gunnar?

Gunnar Kleveland

Thank you, Karen. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our third quarterly earnings call. The past 3 months have been pivotal in our evolution into a more focused and disciplined company, built around our proprietary 3D weaving and material science capabilities and the differentiated value they create across the diverse set of end markets we serve.

Also, as we previously disclosed, we completed our Strategic Review during the quarter. Through that process, we addressed the most significant legacy issue in our portfolio and reached an agreement with Sikorsky that improves the economics of the CH-53K program and provides a more stable foundation for the Salt Lake City manufacturing site and our business going forward.

I'm incredibly proud of the team at our Salt Lake City facility and the broader Engineered Composites organization. Through a period of uncertainty for the team, they stay focused on what Albany does best: delivering high-quality products, supporting our customers and executing with discipline. Our improved performance at the Amelia Earhart Drive facility and the engagement and relationship with Sikorsky were essential to this successful conclusion. We are very pleased to put this behind us.

Since concluding the review, our focus is shifting decisively from addressing legacy challenges to building for growth. We're seeing stronger execution, improved program visibility and a growing pipeline of opportunities across commercial aerospace, defense, missiles, hypersonics and next-generation aircraft applications. We're also continuing to engage with customers and government partners, evidenced by new wins in the quarter as well as the Industrial Base Analysis and Sustainment, or IBAS, award of $21.2 million to complement our investments in ceramic matrix composites. We will now have a fully vertically integrated facility that can serve all high-temperature needs faster and at a lower cost than our competition. This is exemplified through the teaming agreement with Lockheed Martin on hypersonic missile development.

At the same time, Machine Clothing continues to focus on its market and product leadership positions, emerging from the past several years of integration activities with a more optimized and resilient global business. Our integration and footprint actions position the segment to generate strong cash flow while supporting customers across paper, tissue, packaging and other industrial applications.

Taken together, we are entering this next phase as a stronger company with an optimized portfolio, reduced risk profile and a sharper focus on the areas where our core capabilities create long-term customer value.

Turning to results for the quarter. We generated consolidated revenue up 34% to $349.5 million, a record high quarterly revenue for the company. These strong sales were primarily driven by continued strength in Engineered Composites and production rate increases across several key aerospace and defense programs, plus a benefit of approximately $12 million related to the renegotiated CH-53K contract. We also delivered adjusted EBITDA of $100.1 million and adjusted diluted EPS of $1.68, above the high end of the revised outlook range we provided at the conclusion of the Strategic Review.

Our major programs are continuing to ramp. Our execution continues to improve. The portfolio contains materially less program risk, and we are winning new business. This is translating to stronger, healthier and more reliable growth.

Next, I'd like to discuss our results by segment, beginning with Machine Clothing. Machine Clothing revenue was $169.8 million, modestly below the prior year due to anticipated weakness in the Americas during the quarter related to customer consolidations. By region, China remained stable for the fourth consecutive quarter, although visibility remains limited. In the Americas, end market conditions and order rates materially improved in North America, while South America continued to see softer demand similar to the second quarter. In Europe, conditions remain favorable, although our quarterly volume was muted as a result of summer shutdown schedules in the region.

By grade, tissue and packaging demand remains favorable, particularly in Asia due to the stabilization of demand compared to prior year. These areas of strength are partially offset by the long-term secular decline in publication grades and softer demand in South America. The segment delivered adjusted EBITDA of $46.3 million and an EBITDA margin of approximately 27%.

Turning to Engineered Composites, the segment delivered another record quarter with revenue of $179.7 million. Growth was driven by higher production rates across multiple programs, including LEAP, Boeing platforms, CH-53K and missile programs. As has been the case throughout 2026, we're seeing stronger and more consistent EBITDA margins as we work to optimize our portfolio and improve efficiency. Looking forward, we expect additional margin expansion beginning in the second half of 2027 as contract modifications on the CH-53K begin having an impact, and we add new contracts to the portfolio.

Demand across our core commercial aerospace and defense programs remain strong, and we continue to see production rates build across multiple platforms. In defense, we continue to engage in constructive dialogue with the Department of War to support the rebuilding of the U.S. missile supply chain and provide innovative solutions that address critical defense needs with faster production rates and lighter weight solutions. Beyond defense, we're continuing to expand the application of our technology across next generation of commercial platforms. Our inclusion in the Wing of Tomorrow program demonstrates the potential for Albany 3D Woven, braiding, automation and resin transfer molding solutions to support meaningful advances to lighter weight, more durable and more efficient composite aerostructures for future aircraft.

Taken together, Engineered Composites is entering its next phase from a much stronger position. We are executing at a higher production rate, have expanded our pipeline of new opportunities and increased our focus on higher-value applications where our technology can deliver industry-leading solutions.

As we stand here today, we reflect about how, with more than 130 years of material science expertise and innovation, we are now beginning to accelerate the potential of our technology. We continue to evolve and find new ways to provide solutions using our technologies, and we look forward to sharing more about the advances and new applications for our technology at our upcoming Investor Day in New York City in December, where we will update you on our outlook for 2030 and beyond.

With that, I will turn the call over to Sean Valashinas, our acting CFO, to review the financial results in more detail.

Sean Valashinas

Thank you, Gunnar, and good morning. Before turning to the financials, I would like to remind you that a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures discussed today can be found in last night's press release.

Third quarter revenue was $349.5 million, representing growth of 34% year-over-year. This increase was driven primarily by higher activity levels in Engineered Composites as key programs continue to ramp, moderated by a modest decline in Machine Clothing. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $100.1 million or 28.6% of sales, which benefited from approximately $44 million reversal of the reach-forward loss. We also benefited in the quarter from a tariff refund and other discrete items. This compared to a loss in the prior year of $91.1 million, which included a $147.3 million charge related to the CH-53K program.

By segment and beginning with Machine Clothing, revenue of $170 million was at the high end of our expectations. We saw continued stability in Europe, signs of stabilization in China and softness in North and South America. As previously mentioned in the Americas, customer consolidation and capacity rationalization actions taken by papermakers over the past year have reduced volume levels in certain markets. Nonetheless, we maintain our strong market share in the Americas. Adjusted EBITDA for the segment was $46.3 million with a margin of 27.2%. The Machine Clothing business continues to deliver strong margins, reflecting disciplined cost management, operational execution and the ongoing benefits from integration and efficiency initiatives. Compared to the prior year, margins contracted slightly as a result of unfavorable regional mix and lower overall volume.

In Engineered Composites, segment revenue was $179.7 million, which marked a quarterly record for the segment. Performance was strong against all of our major programs and was above our estimates due to the pull forward of tooling in the quarter for a next-generation contract with a defense prime. Segment growth year-over-year was widespread across programs, including higher volume of LEAP, Boeing 787 and missile programs. Adjusted EBITDA for the segment was $65.6 million or 36.5% of sales compared to a loss of $134.6 million in the prior year.

As a reminder, in the third quarter of 2025, the initiation of the Strategic Review on the CH-53K program reduced revenue by approximately $46 million and operating profit by approximately $147 million as we recorded charges associated with the program's loss position. Over the past year, we have continued to execute on the program and have substantially consumed that loss reserve through production activity.

The renegotiation of the CH-53K program reached during the third quarter of 2026 resulted in a positive impact of approximately $12 million to revenue and $44 million to adjusted EBITDA. The timing of that benefit relates to the structure of the settlement. Importantly, the settlement removes uncertainty, improves the long-term economics of the program and further validates the progress our team has made in transforming Engineered Composites from a business focused on resolving legacy challenges into one positioned to create value through operational execution and profitable growth.

Gross profit for the quarter was $140.4 million with a margin of 40.2% compared to a loss of $49.9 million in the prior year. Gross profit benefited in the quarter by $33.4 million related to the renegotiated CH-53K contract. The improvement in gross margin year-over-year reflects adjustments of the amended CH-53K contract and stronger margins in Engineered Composites. Operating income was $59.4 million, representing a margin of 17% compared to a loss of $116.5 million last year. The improvement was driven by the CH-53K contract amendment.

Interest expense decreased to $5.3 million compared to $5.9 million last year as we paid down debt and focused on reducing leverage. Other income was a net benefit of $1.7 million compared to a net benefit of $347,000 in the prior year due to foreign currency translation impacts. The effective tax rate for the quarter was 24.9% compared to 20% in the prior year.

Free cash flow was a net gain of $36.5 million compared to a net gain of $25.7 million in the prior period. The year-over-year increase was driven by a number of items, including benefits from the renegotiated contract, tariff refunds and a vendor credit.

Capital expenditures for the quarter totaled $12.2 million compared to $18.3 million in the prior year as our focus on facility optimization lowered expenditures. R&D expense was $12.2 million, reflecting our continued focus on innovation.

We ended the quarter with $79.1 million in cash and $422.1 million in total debt, resulting in net debt of approximately $343 million as the company's improved cash position allowed for debt repayment while improving overall liquidity. Including revolver availability, we have approximately $457 million of available capital, providing flexibility to support ongoing investments and return capital to shareholders.

Turning to our outlook and beginning with Machine Clothing, the demand environment remains fluid and mixed by geography. We continue to see stable demand in Europe, signs of stabilization in China at current levels and softer demand in North and South America. Given these trends and the impact of customer consolidation and capacity rationalization across parts of the paper industry, we continue to expect full year Machine Clothing revenue to be slightly down compared to 2025. In Engineered Composites, we expect continued year-over-year growth, supported by ongoing program ramps across both commercial and defense platforms. For the fourth quarter of 2026, we continue to expect consolidated revenue in the range of $325 million to $335 million. We anticipate adjusted EPS in the range of $0.65 to $0.75 per diluted share and an effective tax rate of approximately 29.5%.

Now we would like to open the call for questions. Operator?

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Chigusa Katoku with JPMorgan.

分析师问答

Chigusa Katoku

So my first question is on the AEC margins. So there were adjustments for CH-53K both the top line and the EBITDA line. And also, I think you called out in your prepared remarks some tariff refund and discrete items. So adjusting for all of those, what was the underlying EBITDA margin profile of the segment in the third quarter?

Sean Valashinas

Yes, Chigusa, the tariff refunds were spread across both businesses, so really not as much to AEC. But if you back away the -- all of the impacts that you laid out there, you're looking at about a margin profile of 12.5% EBITDA margin for the quarter in AEC, excluding those charges.

Chigusa Katoku

Okay. That's great. And so is the 12.5-ish percent a reasonable assumption as we kind of model out to at least through the first quarter of 2027. And then from the third quarter, I think you'll have some ramp in margins. If you have any color there, that would be great.

Sean Valashinas

Yes, sure. Thanks. So the 12.5% should -- as we move into the fourth quarter and the beginning of 2027, that's a reasonable approximation. We'll start to see some growth as we move into the future quarters, but start with 12.5% as a base and then some reasonable growth coming out of that. And really, the growth is driven by a number of things that we started to experience this quarter. We landed on increased pricing with some of our existing contracts. We obviously renegotiated the legacy contracts that were in a loss position or exited them, for instance, on Gulfstream. We had increased volume and activity levels on our existing contracts. And again, we renegotiated contracts. So we hit on all cylinders and have really started to execute in that business. And so you'll see us increase margins as we move through the quarter into 2027. And our goal as we exit 2027 is to be in the mid-teens in this business.

Chigusa Katoku

Okay. Great. And if I could squeeze one more in, if I may. On the AEC top line, I think there were adjustments from CH-53K this quarter and also last quarter had some adjustments too. So what was the underlying growth rate of the business this quarter? And I think next quarter, you're assuming development growth. So kind of the right run rate to think about heading into 2027?

Gunnar Kleveland

Chigusa, I think you said Engineered Composites and the growth there. The primary growth for our Engineered Composites segment is our current programs. So there's growth on LEAP. There's growth on the Boeing one-piece frames. There's growth in the missile and there's growth in the engine section of the business. There are some new programs that are starting to take effect, and we will see more of that effect as we go through 2027, which we will also talk more about at the Investor Day here in December.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Alexandra Mandery with Truist Securities.

Alexandra Eleni Mandery

What capacity and CapEx do missile hypersonics ramps need? CapEx was down versus last year as a result of facility optimization. So is that lower level sustainable? And you also had that $21.2 million IBAS contract to support hypersonic and solid rocket motor manufacturing. If you could discuss how that plays into the build-out.

Gunnar Kleveland

Alex, you partially answered my question with the IBAS award that we have. We've done significant investment in creating the capability of ceramic matrix composites. And we have the capability. We're doing development there. The additional money from IBAS will act to allow us to do everything in-house. So it adds machining capability as well as quality inspection as well as an addition to the densification process that we currently do not have. And there's some investment from our side there, but limited.

Now this is a capacity that is untapped in a very high demand area right now, as I think everyone knows. Eventually, we will run out of capacity in Rochester. And the investment beyond that, we will try to do in the same manner by some investment on our own and some investment from either our customers or the government. So that is working, and that is the plan.

As far as the capital, we're going to be very constructive in how we use the money that we use for capital. And there is going to be growth capital for both -- for mostly our new programs. But we have pulled back on the capital expenditures, as you saw this year. We expect to continue to invest in the significant growth that we see from Engineered Composites.

Alexandra Eleni Mandery

Great. And then can you update us on the progress of the catch-up in volumes after the equipment failure in Machine Clothing? And I guess, do you still expect those volumes to be caught up by year-end or maybe pushed into 2027?

Gunnar Kleveland

Yes. The equipment continues to run. And so the plan continues to be caught up by year-end. And we see that as absolutely possible, especially since the machine is now being assembled at our site. The new machine is being assembled and will be up and running by the end of the year. So I think we have been able to maintain the current machine and deliver on it through the year without any more downtime, and that risk is significantly lowered as well.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jan Engelbrecht with Baird.

Jan-Frans Engelbrecht

I think I want to just focus a little bit again on the missile programs. You guys called out in the release that it contributed to third quarter AEC growth. And then we saw a nice announcement on the IBAS award for $21 million and then also the expansion of your facility, I think, last week through your press release. But at a high level, how should we think of sort of production content on the missile business versus qualifying new components and sort of the time line that it usually takes since you start talking with a customer to getting qualified and then entering production? Is it sort of similar to the IBAS contract sort of 30 months? Or just how should we think about that?

Gunnar Kleveland

Jan, it's a good question. Some of the growth that we're seeing is primarily in the programs, JASSM, LRASM, where we're already seeing significant demand, and we're ramping up with the new contracts we're getting from our customer.

I would say in a normal environment, once you get on a program, it takes 12, 24, 36 months to ramp up. With the need for -- well, need for speed, in the current market, I expect it to be faster. We're working with several of the OEMs for missiles. I'm not sure which ones we will end up with, but it is going to be on an accelerated schedule.

Some of this is R&D and development on the programs, and you'll start seeing that in '27. I think as I've said before, this used to be a medium to long term, then I said it was a medium. Now I say -- or medium to near term, now it's more near term. I think we'll start seeing impact in '27 and definitely in '28 rather than 30 months out. We have the capability today. What the IBAS contract does is increase and broaden the scope of our capabilities. So 3 years from now, when we're fully deployed on every opportunity is when we have the highest impact. But there's definitely opportunity for us to deliver both in '27 and '28.

Jan-Frans Engelbrecht

And if I can have a follow-up. You guys obviously had very strong cash generation in the third quarter here. There was some pull forward from the CH-53K contract. But I know that's a focus area since you've taken over is cash generation. But just how should we think about steady-state cash dynamics for Albany? I know there's maybe some working capital investments that you need to make given the demand. But how should we think about that? I know you can't talk too much ahead of the Investor Day. But just as we're exiting 2026, what's sort of the steady state? Or are you guys targeting operating cash growth in 2027, if you can comment on that?

Sean Valashinas

Yes, Jan, I'll take that one. I think you hit it well, right? We'll share more as we get into Investor Day in December. But as you think about Q4 and as we move into the beginning of Q1, right? What you saw this quarter, we certainly have started to focus -- there's a high degree of focus on cash flow within the business right now, right? We're generating improvements across the business. I don't know that I would characterize the 53K renegotiation as a driver of cash flow in the quarter. We'll start to see that into the fourth quarter and into 2027, particularly -- well, in all 4 quarters into 2027 as well. So you'll see some of that.

But I think you can -- our historic results in Q4 have typically been very strong cash flow in the quarter. I think you can expect to see strong cash flow maybe consistently -- consistent with what we've seen in Q3 or near that. And then as we move into Q1, that will follow the historic patterns that you've seen typically. But like you said, we'll share more of that at Investor Day as we move into December.

Jan-Frans Engelbrecht

Okay. Great. Sean, if I could squeeze in one more question. Just high-level thoughts that you guys have on capital deployment in terms of potential acquisitions, organic investments. I know you guys have talked about being very adamant about not bidding on structures assembly work in AEC, but high-level thoughts on capital deployment as we sort of exit this year.

Gunnar Kleveland

It's going to continue to be disciplined. But clearly, with some of these structural issues that we have now behind us, I will take more seriously some of the inbounds that we have for potential acquisitions. We have the capability to do that. I know we have the team that can incorporate an acquisition. But we also have a lot of inorganic -- organic, rather, opportunities. So it will be a continued disciplined approach and including our dividends.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Gunnar Kleveland for closing remarks.

Gunnar Kleveland

Thank you. And thank you, everyone, for joining us on the call today. We look forward to sharing more information and long-term targets in December at our Investor Day. If you have any questions about the event, please contact Karen. Thank you, and have a good day.

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.

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